There only doing this so fisheries/recfish can say bag limits can be increased with proper management. They are just trying to put themselves in a better position in preparation for the new demersal catch reduction(Which is bullshit) just my opinion. my memory may be a bit fuzzy but I can't remember any bag limits being increased?
Agree Jim . Waiting for punch line ( new rules ) . Crays will drop in years to come ( that is bad move) taking oversize females . ( with hair) .imagine getting caught with furry marron .is what it is . Could be worse . Like living in Ukraine .
I'm super glad the Herring limit is going back up. As I use a lot of them for bait 12 didn't cut it. I couldn't wrap my head around the fact it was fine to buy as many as you want unlimited but couldn't catch your own over 12. I'll always cach the majority of my own bait and when the Herring limits changed I suplemented with other varieties including King George Whiting. Now even I think that is slightly crazy considering there was never a shortage of Herring in my experience fishing Albany to Metro regularly. I do a lot of night fishing and 90% of the time come across humongous schools everywhere. Thousands of fish sometimes. I anchor and fish out to 70m and this allows me to see them more often. I also fish a lot deeper sometimes and even on the drift still see them but quite as much due to shifting more often but they're still out there too, without berley half the time just an all round light is enough to bring them around. Last two trips for example got my 12 in 15mins or less. I occasionally would like to take more for when I beach or rock fish in storms when it's too hard to fish a small line. Also I've always thought it's a staple food for many other landbased fisherman pensioners etc and some have to travel long distances just to fish once a month.
Beauty, enough for crumbed fresh fillets for my family of 5 and some high quality bait.
Anecdotally since I've had the boat in 2015, I've seen the number pick up massively over the last 5 years where now just a bit of burley bring in a huge school. Even the Dawesville Cut off the rockwalls seemed to really go quiet and has recently picked up with bull herring again.
When I stay on the boat at Rottnest we eat them whenever we feel like it because we all know there's heaps at Rotto. For 2 of us I only keep 6 as a rule and then get fresh ones next time so bag limits don't matter to me. I agree that increasing them makes sense.
imo they have been steady for the last 10years ive fished from the boat and last 20years landbased. Like clockwork they come into the berley trail in big numbers just on sunset. Also while salmon fishing down south, herring numbers were massive. I really think there was no issue to begin with. I wish we were privy to the data fisheries recieve so i could be proven wrong, but in my experience there was never an issue to begin with. I guess its better to take action before the damage is done but only if the science is solid and transparent.
Heard the professional net fisherman from cockburn sound the other day talking at a meeting and he said he was really pissed off when the cut hit quota down by half on his catch but now he says it was a good thing because his catch rate has gone up and less effort . He has never seen the herring numbers so good in all of his years catching them
supposably paid out...pro's may be banned from netting herring across the board and white/blue bait netting being looked at is what I heard...on the vine
I read the g net link and it seems to be a good thing.Instead of killing everything in the area the net schools the fish in to an area they can be hand selected and all bycatch released.Quotas can be set and adjusted to a realistic level.Seeme like a win win
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Jim
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There only doing this so
There only doing this so fisheries/recfish can say bag limits can be increased with proper management. They are just trying to put themselves in a better position in preparation for the new demersal catch reduction(Which is bullshit) just my opinion. my memory may be a bit fuzzy but I can't remember any bag limits being increased?
Bend over
carnarvonite
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Date Joined: 24/07/07
Crayfish
The number of crays if I remember went down to 6 and now is back up to 8 plus the season was extended from Nov 15 to June 30, to all year round now
little johnny
Posts: 5360
Date Joined: 04/12/11
Totally
Agree Jim . Waiting for punch line ( new rules ) . Crays will drop in years to come ( that is bad move) taking oversize females . ( with hair) .imagine getting caught with furry marron .is what it is . Could be worse . Like living in Ukraine .
Dr Cashews
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Date Joined: 03/05/20
They're
They're
Don't lie, cheat or steal, the Government hates competition
Daniel Westerduin
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Date Joined: 30/10/06
I'm super glad the Herring
I'm super glad the Herring limit is going back up. As I use a lot of them for bait 12 didn't cut it. I couldn't wrap my head around the fact it was fine to buy as many as you want unlimited but couldn't catch your own over 12. I'll always cach the majority of my own bait and when the Herring limits changed I suplemented with other varieties including King George Whiting. Now even I think that is slightly crazy considering there was never a shortage of Herring in my experience fishing Albany to Metro regularly. I do a lot of night fishing and 90% of the time come across humongous schools everywhere. Thousands of fish sometimes. I anchor and fish out to 70m and this allows me to see them more often. I also fish a lot deeper sometimes and even on the drift still see them but quite as much due to shifting more often but they're still out there too, without berley half the time just an all round light is enough to bring them around. Last two trips for example got my 12 in 15mins or less. I occasionally would like to take more for when I beach or rock fish in storms when it's too hard to fish a small line. Also I've always thought it's a staple food for many other landbased fisherman pensioners etc and some have to travel long distances just to fish once a month.
Jackfrost80
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Date Joined: 07/05/12
Beauty, enough for crumbed
Beauty, enough for crumbed fresh fillets for my family of 5 and some high quality bait.
Anecdotally since I've had the boat in 2015, I've seen the number pick up massively over the last 5 years where now just a bit of burley bring in a huge school. Even the Dawesville Cut off the rockwalls seemed to really go quiet and has recently picked up with bull herring again.
Officially off the Pies bandwagon
davewillo
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Date Joined: 08/09/16
When I stay on the boat at
When I stay on the boat at Rottnest we eat them whenever we feel like it because we all know there's heaps at Rotto. For 2 of us I only keep 6 as a rule and then get fresh ones next time so bag limits don't matter to me. I agree that increasing them makes sense.
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Jim
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Date Joined: 05/05/06
imo they have been steady
imo they have been steady for the last 10years ive fished from the boat and last 20years landbased. Like clockwork they come into the berley trail in big numbers just on sunset. Also while salmon fishing down south, herring numbers were massive. I really think there was no issue to begin with. I wish we were privy to the data fisheries recieve so i could be proven wrong, but in my experience there was never an issue to begin with. I guess its better to take action before the damage is done but only if the science is solid and transparent.
Bend over
Jackfrost80
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Date Joined: 07/05/12
Have Fisheries refused your
Have Fisheries refused your request for the data?
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Jim
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Date Joined: 05/05/06
No, I didn't know you could
No, I didn't know you could ask! I ll look into it.
Bend over
Rob H
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Date Joined: 18/01/12
You could request from
You could request from Fisheries, or perhaps a better way would be to approach Recfishwest?
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
Pete F
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Date Joined: 07/01/18
The data is publicly
The data is publicly available Herring
Cheers
little johnny
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Date Joined: 04/12/11
As long as they don’t allow
Use of G/NETS down south again . Herring will keep comings
Pete F
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Date Joined: 07/01/18
Too late they already have
Too late they already have allowed 70 ton and its already in the freezer. G-trap
Cheers
Blackgold
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Date Joined: 11/06/15
Herring number never been so good
Heard the professional net fisherman from cockburn sound the other day talking at a meeting and he said he was really pissed off when the cut hit quota down by half on his catch but now he says it was a good thing because his catch rate has gone up and less effort . He has never seen the herring numbers so good in all of his years catching them
Blackgold
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Double post
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squidder
Posts: 457
Date Joined: 03/09/10
G nets
supposably paid out...pro's may be banned from netting herring across the board and white/blue bait netting being looked at is what I heard...on the vine
duncan61
Posts: 376
Date Joined: 21/11/14
G nets
I read the g net link and it seems to be a good thing.Instead of killing everything in the area the net schools the fish in to an area they can be hand selected and all bycatch released.Quotas can be set and adjusted to a realistic level.Seeme like a win win
just do it.