is their much difference in price for a yamaha only reason is when i was buying a boat last year i saw two boats for sale with suzukies and thay had just had full rebuilds and one was still under new warrenty so hadent done many hrs could hav been a couple of one offs and or a story behind them but once u hear that u do have secound thoughts their will be people who love and back them all the way
IMO they are the best motor on the market. The 140 I was using was under new warranty. For a new warranty service, they would put one of their service team on a light plane from Darwin and send him out. He would rock up with his laptop, plug it in and away he went. He had access to the whole history of the engine from the 1st turn of the key.
We did have a small electrical problem. They did the same thing with their service tecnician. It ended up being a rat that had got in the boat that had chewed through some wires in the wiring harness.
I could not fault them.
I also used Yamaha for a long period before this. Again a brilliant motor.
My opinion is that the Suzuki is a better motor. A bit quieter, better fuel economy, but the service we got from Suzuki was the stand out difference.
I drove onto my trailer, the missus hooked up the safety chain and off we went to the boat wash. Missus hands me the hose and I start washing the inside of the boat. I was near the stern when I thought, what is that noise...... D'OH!!!!! Forgot to turn off the motor. It is so quiet at idle, I find myself looking at the tacho a lot to see if it is still running.
I have a 2004 225 johnson imported from the states which is really an albino suzuki, very quiet and fuel efficient and the new ones are even better. very good for twin setups as well as they can be made to counter rotate by just throwing a lever or switch or something.heaps better that the 2004 175 two stroke my last boat had.
I fitted a new DF150 on the back of my boat and it's been great. (Imported from US)
Quiet, and unbelievably torquey spinning a 15.75" diameter prop (can spin up to 16")
i chose the 150 over the 140 as the latter is basically just a highly strung version of the DF90 and DF115.
The 140 is obviously still a VERY good engine but the big block 150 (nearly 3L) was going to be producing the HP with far less effort which has got to be good for reliability / longevity.
(and the torque of the 150 is on another level)
The 175 is exactly the same block, leg etc as the 150, but has variable valve timing and higher tuning to extract the extra 25HP.
Sometimes wish I went the 175 over the 150 for pure zing - but with the majority of the extra HP coming within the higher, and narrower 5500-6100 WOT range (vs 5000-6000 on the 150) I figured I wouldn't be using it that much.
Besides, the 150 was going to be plenty for my tub.
The DF175 is a great engine for a boat that needs that HP, with the added bonus of VVT delivering increased torque at lower revs while running on the first stage cam timing, then switching timing for max HP when operating at higher revs.
The principle of extra horsepower from same engine doesn't really apply as it's only 16% between the 150 & 175 vs a whopping 55% between the base DF90 and the suped-up DF140.
I can attest to them being an awesome motor. I have the DF90 on mine it's quiet, very fuel efficient and has plenty of get up and go. I'll be looking for a DF70 for my project boat very soon.
Love the Suzuki outboards. If I had a choice of motors, it would be a Suzuki.
They sip petrol and sure are quiet. Had both my boats on either side of the finger jetty at OR a few years ago, both with the motors (Johnzuki and Verado) running and regardless of which boat I climbed into, the only motor i could hear was the Verado.
Wonder if Suzuki will end up distributing the motors themselves again?
Lots of people got burnt badly when Suzuki pulled out of Australia last time. No parts availability and no warranty left a lot of owners very annoyed.
Suppose the Internet and being able to buy parts online has eased some concerns in that area.
No matter how I drive my boat I average 2km per litre.
Never had problems with the motor but here in the tropics I just drain my fuel filter regularly to remove the water as the hunidty lets it creep in. The engine soon lets you know when it sniffs water in the fuel when out wide so all good.
Would certainly buy another one and a mate has the 70 with 2500 hours and absolutely no problems and thats a shite load of trolling in the NT.
I bought the nex df60 last year for my Stacer and it has run a treat and is cheap on fuel. I have had absolutelly no dramas with it. The only annoying thing is when fishing and 15 minutes later you see the water spurting out the tell tale hole because you forgot to turn the bugger off, its that quiet.
was watching I Fish the other day and I am pretty sure the guy on there said the Suzis on their boat had 13000 hrs on them and were still rock solid! He reckoned if that was a car that would be more than a million Ks!!
I personally know of a guide boat that had over 8000 in the NT. Had a couple of gearbox issues at 2000 hours. He was looking at upgrading at 5500 but decided to see what he could get out of it. As far as I know its still going.
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pale ale
Posts: 1755
Date Joined: 02/01/10
good motors. I have a suzuki
good motors. I have a suzuki DF200 on a 6.5 mt signature, and it has been great. 175 om a barcrusher should be just right!
till
Posts: 9358
Date Joined: 21/02/08
Oddly, I find myself agreeing
Oddly, I find myself agreeing with PA.
Go the zuke! I have been on a lot of boats with the DF140 and it's a great motor.
Son of tomcat
Posts: 80
Date Joined: 04/09/12
is their much difference in
is their much difference in price for a yamaha only reason is when i was buying a boat last year i saw two boats for sale with suzukies and thay had just had full rebuilds and one was still under new warrenty so hadent done many hrs could hav been a couple of one offs and or a story behind them but once u hear that u do have secound thoughts their will be people who love and back them all the way
koji
Posts: 19
Date Joined: 29/09/09
only motor
Thanks for your replies
That is the only motor brand the dealer has
barneyboy
Posts: 1392
Date Joined: 08/01/09
I have used them as a guide in the NT
IMO they are the best motor on the market. The 140 I was using was under new warranty. For a new warranty service, they would put one of their service team on a light plane from Darwin and send him out. He would rock up with his laptop, plug it in and away he went. He had access to the whole history of the engine from the 1st turn of the key.
We did have a small electrical problem. They did the same thing with their service tecnician. It ended up being a rat that had got in the boat that had chewed through some wires in the wiring harness.
I could not fault them.
I also used Yamaha for a long period before this. Again a brilliant motor.
My opinion is that the Suzuki is a better motor. A bit quieter, better fuel economy, but the service we got from Suzuki was the stand out difference.
FEEEISH ONNN!!!
pale ale
Posts: 1755
Date Joined: 02/01/10
Quieter is an
Quieter is an understatement.
I drove onto my trailer, the missus hooked up the safety chain and off we went to the boat wash. Missus hands me the hose and I start washing the inside of the boat. I was near the stern when I thought, what is that noise...... D'OH!!!!! Forgot to turn off the motor. It is so quiet at idle, I find myself looking at the tacho a lot to see if it is still running.
joycey
Posts: 251
Date Joined: 28/05/11
Out of interest whose the
Out of interest whose the Perth dealers for Suzuki ?
pricey10
Posts: 486
Date Joined: 07/01/12
Try millard in bunbury they
Try millard in bunbury they looked after me.I have nothing good to say about the one that sells caravans....
Karratha. WA
till
Posts: 9358
Date Joined: 21/02/08
The caravan bunch in Kingsley
The caravan bunch in Kingsley and Brett Ward/West Coast Suzuki Marine are in Bibra Lake but also run a mobile service.
shonky
Posts: 203
Date Joined: 22/04/12
top donks
I have a 2004 225 johnson imported from the states which is really an albino suzuki, very quiet and fuel efficient and the new ones are even better. very good for twin setups as well as they can be made to counter rotate by just throwing a lever or switch or something.heaps better that the 2004 175 two stroke my last boat had.
This habit is getting expensive!
seaswirl
Posts: 268
Date Joined: 29/08/10
suzi
great motor, i have a 300hp. brett ward had the best price...
Dizzy
Posts: 753
Date Joined: 21/02/11
I fitted a new DF150 on the
I fitted a new DF150 on the back of my boat and it's been great. (Imported from US)
Quiet, and unbelievably torquey spinning a 15.75" diameter prop (can spin up to 16")
i chose the 150 over the 140 as the latter is basically just a highly strung version of the DF90 and DF115.
The 140 is obviously still a VERY good engine but the big block 150 (nearly 3L) was going to be producing the HP with far less effort which has got to be good for reliability / longevity.
(and the torque of the 150 is on another level)
The 175 is exactly the same block, leg etc as the 150, but has variable valve timing and higher tuning to extract the extra 25HP.
Sometimes wish I went the 175 over the 150 for pure zing - but with the majority of the extra HP coming within the higher, and narrower 5500-6100 WOT range (vs 5000-6000 on the 150) I figured I wouldn't be using it that much.
Besides, the 150 was going to be plenty for my tub.
The DF175 is a great engine for a boat that needs that HP, with the added bonus of VVT delivering increased torque at lower revs while running on the first stage cam timing, then switching timing for max HP when operating at higher revs.
The principle of extra horsepower from same engine doesn't really apply as it's only 16% between the 150 & 175 vs a whopping 55% between the base DF90 and the suped-up DF140.
sea-kem
Posts: 14992
Date Joined: 30/11/09
I can attest to them being
I can attest to them being an awesome motor. I have the DF90 on mine it's quiet, very fuel efficient and has plenty of get up and go. I'll be looking for a DF70 for my project boat very soon.
Love the West!
chris raff
Posts: 3257
Date Joined: 09/02/10
The black cowling sucks
The black cowling sucks ...reminds of a previous motor I had , other than that you'd be hard pressed to find a bad word against them...
“Intelligence is like a four-wheel drive. It only allows you to get stuck in more remote places.”
Dizzy
Posts: 753
Date Joined: 21/02/11
I agree ! - black definitely
I agree ! - black definitely has a negative stigma attached - I've even seen knockers referring to them as the new "black anchors"
Plus Yammy colours would have suited my White/Grey/Blue tub perfectly :P
But it had a great run with the Johnzuki 115 on it prior, and $$$ and performance figures made the choice pretty easy to stay with the Suzi.
alfred
Posts: 3097
Date Joined: 12/01/07
Love the Suzuki outboards.
Love the Suzuki outboards. If I had a choice of motors, it would be a Suzuki.
They sip petrol and sure are quiet. Had both my boats on either side of the finger jetty at OR a few years ago, both with the motors (Johnzuki and Verado) running and regardless of which boat I climbed into, the only motor i could hear was the Verado.
baders
Posts: 22
Date Joined: 02/08/11
Another vote of confidence
Another vote of confidence from me. I've had my DF140 and Scout 5.8 for about 6 months now and it has proven to be quiet, economical and reliable.
Rob H
Posts: 5803
Date Joined: 18/01/12
Suzuki and Yam
Suzukis and Yams 4S
, best combinations of weight cost and usability
advantage of the Suzi is the extra gearing, its always more efficient to push alot of water slowly than a little bit fast.
Ive got a pair of DF115's and the only downside for me is that they arent counter rotating, wasnt available til 2009.
So if anyone has a counter 90/100/115/140 and wants to swap boxes to get a standard rotation give me a buzz!
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
dodgy
Posts: 4578
Date Joined: 01/02/10
Wonder if Suzuki will end up
Wonder if Suzuki will end up distributing the motors themselves again?
Lots of people got burnt badly when Suzuki pulled out of Australia last time. No parts availability and no warranty left a lot of owners very annoyed.
Suppose the Internet and being able to buy parts online has eased some concerns in that area.
Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
damo6230
Posts: 2029
Date Joined: 07/06/08
Suzuki 115
First thing everybody says is how quiet they are.
No matter how I drive my boat I average 2km per litre.
Never had problems with the motor but here in the tropics I just drain my fuel filter regularly to remove the water as the hunidty lets it creep in. The engine soon lets you know when it sniffs water in the fuel when out wide so all good.
Would certainly buy another one and a mate has the 70 with 2500 hours and absolutely no problems and thats a shite load of trolling in the NT.
I am looking to get plenty of hours out of mine
sazman
Posts: 7
Date Joined: 01/11/12
I bought the nex df60 last
I bought the nex df60 last year for my Stacer and it has run a treat and is cheap on fuel. I have had absolutelly no dramas with it. The only annoying thing is when fishing and 15 minutes later you see the water spurting out the tell tale hole because you forgot to turn the bugger off, its that quiet.
shonky
Posts: 203
Date Joined: 22/04/12
I Fish
was watching I Fish the other day and I am pretty sure the guy on there said the Suzis on their boat had 13000 hrs on them and were still rock solid! He reckoned if that was a car that would be more than a million Ks!!
This habit is getting expensive!
dodgy
Posts: 4578
Date Joined: 01/02/10
I personally know of a guide
I personally know of a guide boat that had over 8000 in the NT. Had a couple of gearbox issues at 2000 hours. He was looking at upgrading at 5500 but decided to see what he could get out of it. As far as I know its still going.
Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?