why do you wanna land a stingray, so you bring it up and look at it, to much risk, trouble and for something thats fights that hard, it should be released.
plus that isnt a "big" eagle ray.
die hard the only safe way to land these is to gaff them, but then its probably gonna die, make a decision cut the line when its beat and youve won the fight, let it go. or only keep it if youre gonna eat it, theres better things out there
what we do, is gaff em, flip em on ther backs, get a towel, stand on the tail with the towel under your shoe, use pliers to get the hooks out, then still attached to the gaff, get down onto lower rocks, ungaff him (inverting the gaff, so it slides out-- pretty easily) into the water and hey presto. never had a stingy die on me once ive released it. they are bloody hardy creatures and 9 out of 10 times, if there correctly gaffed, they will live. i always would like my rig back, so i try as hard as i can to get it. only ever once cut the line-- it was as close to the second snell as possible, and it was in a biggg wobbygong that iw asnt sticking my hands in. theres a picutre of it kicking around somewere on here.
or just grab the leader and lift em up lay em on there back and pull hooks out n throw em in - i spike em and eat the flaps they taste like chicken - rolled in flour mmmmm
ive always gaffed my stingies in the mouth. never had one die on me. the mouth makes it easier to manage when its on the rocks. gaffing it in the wing can have the possibility of the gaff ripping through the stingray. have seen it happen. im sticking to mouth gaffing as its easier and safer. wich would you prefer- mouth gaff it, flip it onto its back and be done within 5 minutes rather than wing gaffing it, having a stingray flapping around flailing its tail and barb around to the risk of it barbing someone? what are you saying that could happen by gaffing them in the mouth?
hmm ur right there. So as they are next to the rocks u somehow? gaff them in the mouth then u somehow? lift them up flip them over ASAP put/wrap a towl around their barb stand on it while removing hook. then stand off towel pull tell away and somehow lif it up and place in water? then angle the gaff till it slides of its mouth X)
once youve surfaced it, grab the gaff and slide it under its head, and the gaff barb will slot into the mouthand you yank it, to secure it. then you use uyour upper body strength to slide them up onto the rock on their back. you keep the gaff in its mouth as long as you can, makes for an easier release. what i do, is invert the gaff while the ray is still on thew rock, in wich it will flap, rekleasing the gaff and sliding back into the water. if it dosnt slide back, push it in with the gaff.
Yes you are right Leemo i heard fisheries (personal chats) saying that u should remove barbs as it will make the next catch easier! it was also in a magz.
taking the barb out can also be safer for the stingray itself. we had a medium size black ray at pinaroo point o0ne night and it barbed and killed itself. i havnt caught a stingray in a very long time and im itching to land one again. not much spare time being at school though, unfortunately.
i would have thought gaffing the wing would cause much less harm than gaffing the mouth? Also just cuz it swims away doesnt mean it wont die. Little ones like that should be easy enough to handle anyway, especially with a couple of ppl.
i usually wing gaff or mouth gaff all rays i have caught,does no harm at all,exept a scar or wound ,that will heal in no time due to salt water,that is a natural antiseptic any way
It's their primary defence mechanism its just bloody cruel,
All you need to do is be wary of it when you do catch one...just totally unnecessary to debarb them
Fanatical Fisher
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Ray
Nice little eagle ray.
Do you keep them or let them go?
madwafisher
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Looks like fun Where did
Looks like fun
Where did you catch it from
wopjrb
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tasty
good to eat
shifeng
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blackwall reach
got it at blackwall reach. we kept it and gonna cook it with sambal chilli tmr night for supper! =D
wopjrb
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i bet you thought you had a mulloway
a big brown flappin......oh crap not again
DieHard
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any1 know how to release
any1 know how to release them (with out killing urself) Off rocks? and wat u gotta do to land them?
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wide open
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why
why do you wanna land a stingray, so you bring it up and look at it, to much risk, trouble and for something thats fights that hard, it should be released.
plus that isnt a "big" eagle ray.
die hard the only safe way to land these is to gaff them, but then its probably gonna die, make a decision cut the line when its beat and youve won the fight, let it go. or only keep it if youre gonna eat it, theres better things out there
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what we do, is gaff em, flip
what we do, is gaff em, flip em on ther backs, get a towel, stand on the tail with the towel under your shoe, use pliers to get the hooks out, then still attached to the gaff, get down onto lower rocks, ungaff him (inverting the gaff, so it slides out-- pretty easily) into the water and hey presto. never had a stingy die on me once ive released it. they are bloody hardy creatures and 9 out of 10 times, if there correctly gaffed, they will live. i always would like my rig back, so i try as hard as i can to get it. only ever once cut the line-- it was as close to the second snell as possible, and it was in a biggg wobbygong that iw asnt sticking my hands in. theres a picutre of it kicking around somewere on here.
bludgin' since 94'
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Oh ok so you gaff him in the
Oh ok so you gaff him in the wing nearest to the end?
how long outta water can they live (incase of pics)
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Leemo
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no way. gaff em in the
no way. gaff em in the mouth! try not to keep em out for too long, 2 minutes is more than enough for pictures
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gee whispers ! in the mouth
gee whispers !
in the mouth wouldnt that like go through the head or sumfin?
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wopjrb
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in the wing is the best spot right at the end
or just grab the leader and lift em up lay em on there back and pull hooks out n throw em in - i spike em and eat the flaps they taste like chicken - rolled in flour mmmmm
Leemo
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gaff em in the wing if you
gaff em in the wing if you wanna either eat it, or leave it with potential diseases. your choice.
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wopjrb
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better than gaffing thru the mouth
the wound would heal in a few days
Leemo
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ive always gaffed my
ive always gaffed my stingies in the mouth. never had one die on me. the mouth makes it easier to manage when its on the rocks. gaffing it in the wing can have the possibility of the gaff ripping through the stingray. have seen it happen. im sticking to mouth gaffing as its easier and safer. wich would you prefer- mouth gaff it, flip it onto its back and be done within 5 minutes rather than wing gaffing it, having a stingray flapping around flailing its tail and barb around to the risk of it barbing someone? what are you saying that could happen by gaffing them in the mouth?
bludgin' since 94'
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hmm ur right there. So as
hmm ur right there. So as they are next to the rocks u somehow? gaff them in the mouth then u somehow? lift them up flip them over ASAP put/wrap a towl around their barb stand on it while removing hook. then stand off towel pull tell away and somehow lif it up and place in water? then angle the gaff till it slides of its mouth X)
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Leemo
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once youve surfaced it, grab
once youve surfaced it, grab the gaff and slide it under its head, and the gaff barb will slot into the mouthand you yank it, to secure it. then you use uyour upper body strength to slide them up onto the rock on their back. you keep the gaff in its mouth as long as you can, makes for an easier release. what i do, is invert the gaff while the ray is still on thew rock, in wich it will flap, rekleasing the gaff and sliding back into the water. if it dosnt slide back, push it in with the gaff.
bludgin' since 94'
shifeng
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hmm... 1 question though.
hmm... 1 question though. will it cause the ray any harm if we remove the barb and then release? trophy u noe.. especially the big rays
Leemo
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it shouldnt caus eit any
it shouldnt caus eit any harm, in fact it makes it safer for us anyway. just my opinion though
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Yes you are right Leemo i
Yes you are right Leemo i heard fisheries (personal chats) saying that u should remove barbs as it will make the next catch easier! it was also in a magz.
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Leemo
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taking the barb out can also
taking the barb out can also be safer for the stingray itself. we had a medium size black ray at pinaroo point o0ne night and it barbed and killed itself. i havnt caught a stingray in a very long time and im itching to land one again. not much spare time being at school though, unfortunately.
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DieHard
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Yes damn school :/ need to
Yes damn school :/
need to get something big anything.... need to stretch my arms a bit :O
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i would have thought gaffing
i would have thought gaffing the wing would cause much less harm than gaffing the mouth? Also just cuz it swims away doesnt mean it wont die. Little ones like that should be easy enough to handle anyway, especially with a couple of ppl.
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wing gaff or mouth gaff
i usually wing gaff or mouth gaff all rays i have caught,does no harm at all,exept a scar or wound ,that will heal in no time due to salt water,that is a natural antiseptic any way
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Don't remove their barb if
Don't remove their barb if your releasing them...
It's their primary defence mechanism its just bloody cruel,
All you need to do is be wary of it when you do catch one...just totally unnecessary to debarb them