Mabye a Quintrex Legend?

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 go the glass for a better ride.if your going to get a cc, prepare to get wet unless you get a bit of a screen on it 

For fishing wide a decent glass boat is always going to ride better than an ally boat.

Lookin to spend any where from 0 to About 20 000 is my absolute max trying to avoid that amount at all cost unless it's a good deal  

Ask yourself what do you want in a boat and what do you expect from the boat. If its all well offshore stuff you will want something that can take a beating if you get caught and have to bash your way home.

If its just behind the three mile and off to Rotto a run of the mill one will suit.

BUT if the missus wants you to run her up and down the river catching tiddlers and crabs as well as the other two bits . you are in trouble because finding a boat that fits all possibilities doesn't exist, there has to be give and take and untill your mind is completely set don't rush in and buy what you think is a bargain because you will regret it.

Ask the boat owners on this site how many boats they have owned and why they have changed from their original ideas.

Myself, have owned about 8-9 of all sizes and both ali and glass qand now have a 5 metre ali that was designed for a jet and now is fitted with and outboard, just goes to tell that things change over time.

 Im gonna be using it all off shore I don't bother with the river anymore every time I will be goin out from hillarys on to the 3 mile and rotto and looking for something that can handle well just in case worst comes to worst 

I have a quintrex 5.7 legend. best boat ever, particularly offshore. With 2.4m beam and the millenium hull provides a great ride in all weather. Very stable with 3 of us fishing on one side no problems. Plenty of storage room below deck as well. Take the family to rotto no problem with 5 adults on board. Got a bimini cover for the hot days that covers 75% of the boat. I also dive so plenty of room for all my gear.

Only time I get wet is if strong seabreeze side on, but that will happen with any centre console. If trimmed right nomally very dry boat.

Also lighter than fibreglass for towing.

Look for boat with 4 stoke as will give better mileage. I have 2 stroke but can still go 25nm offshore with 20% reverse fuel on return.

Ice man he said around $20000...I agree your boat sounds nice but you simply wont get one for that price.

I would always say fiberglass for offshore work. Yes some ali's like the Quintrex legend or even the barcrsuher are great but simply out of your dollars.

I'd look for a fiberglass rig, especially something like a Chivers, or there was even a nice Fraser that i saw advertsied online for around that price..

And no its not one of mine..

Cheers for the input I think fiberglass is winning I've been looking at 21ft centre console (Pacemaker hull) about late 80's with 1998 130hp Yamaha outboard motor spoke to the bloke and seems like a alright deal but is the motor and hull to old? And I can talk to the mechanic that services it and should i go for a private deal or someone from a marine dealership also what should I be looking for as in damage wise to the hull if there is any and same for the outboard an anyone know how easy is fiberglass to repair ? 

The boat your looking at does it have a very deep v. There is one that has floated around for years that isn't a good one and it has a Yamaha on the back. Having said that it is only one. The console is a very enclosed style that is straight up and down and has great shelter but really only for one.

If you like i would be happy to talk to regarding boats if your wanting help. I would say for sure get it checked by a independent mechanic..What area are you in? 

My number is 9300 9970

 FIBREGLASS!! 

The boat dealer in Joondalup buisness park ,opposite the bus depot, has such a boat 

If i say it correctly for about half of what you want to spend.

I did have a look at it , but it was to big for my situation.

http://perth.gumtree.com.au/c-Boats-Jet-Skis-boats-jet-skis-other-Centre-console-W0QQAdIdZ261706261#I live in subi I'll put up a pic of the one I'm looking at it is in bicton and what am I Lookin for hull wise? 

mate get a pack of dougnuts, go see Rod at Joondalup Boat Shack, and let him have a good chat to you.

Rod is one of the few honest and trust worthy dealers around and will not sell you cr@p or something that won't suit your needs.

ps he likes the ones with choc and sprinkles on top

That's not true i like the chocolate covered ones. And lets be honest i think that last few times you've visited you've obvously eaten them all by the time your here..

Glastronic the yard your talking about is me..I have a few Ali boats but not what i would suggest.

Caza the boat your looking at is not the one i was referring to. That boat is a big unit and i would suggest that would go very well. Maybe be slightly be underpowered..Best to give it a good run..

Rod

onya rod for offering the advice....well done mate. Thats what i love about this site.........threads where guys are helping each other out and not the reverse??

 So far a lot of my questions have been answered and can't thank everyone enough when I go to look at this boat on the weekend any key points I should be looking for and any advice and any important questions I should ask 

agree with seeing rod,

has helped me a few times already and i never brought our boat from him, he has a world of knollege avail and do take his advice onboard

 since then my old boy has brought from rod and his is going well.(ally)

in regards to your boat, i would go glass but definatly not a c/c.

think about the other stuff you might do with it...overnighters,cruising around,crabbingo or just sitting back relaxing having a beer at parker point, the c/consoles arnt much good for that.

saying all that, mine is glass, but i would love to be able to walk down the sides at least.

do you have kids?

does the wife/ girl freind go out with you?

definatly a late modle engine if possible.

good luck

ron

No kids or wife I'm only 18 so none of that's a problem not really going to be doin much else except going deep sea fishing for the day im goin to try get up to joondalup on the weekend I will be looking at this boat before hand as I'll be fishing at woodman point early so will drive past on the way home and when you say late model engine what would you determine as to old  

2010...ha ha ha

nah sereously just dont buy something with the realy old engines like 70/80's big juice guzzlers

I just bought this C/C for under 20k: (thanks to Allrounder for the link)

http://boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/power-boats/haines-hunter-centre-consol-565/86002

This thread may also be some help to you:

http://fishwrecked.com/forum/looking-boat

There is a Swiftcraft Dominator on Gumtree for +/_17K.

These boats will do what you have indicated you want them to do from what i read above.

So the year dosnt really matter as long as its a good working solid engine it's won't matter to much but I do see the reason to buy a late model engine any tips to look for a decent engine? Could you please send me the link 

smoke up a tree me thinks! 13 litres of oil maybe! sorry had to say it

 We just recently got a Quintrex 420 estuary angler for our first boat, 10 grand second hand, definately worth having a look if your looking for a small first boat, we got a small one to start off and just work out boats and get used to them but getting bigger one later on in life :)

I've driven tinnes and a mates 4.6 center console and want something bigger than that 

http://www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/trailer-boats/fraser-cobia/82489

what about this one.    just a touch more but great low hours motor , not too old a hull.  worth a look

Caza have you any mechanical & handyman ability. Electrical, electronics, welding or fiberglassing experience, or are willing to learn?

If you buy an older boat and get it home, a look behind the scenes on board is where the money starts leaving the wallet.

My second boat, and I've spent nearly as much on fee's rego's etc, repairs and making it sea worthy as I have paid for it.

My thoughts are, is to be a deckie and let someone else have the expenses.

 It's a little out of my range I'm Tryin to avoid 20 000 at all costs unless Its that one time opportunity I don't have any knowledge of handy man work as you say so I'm Tryin to see if I can find someone who has a bit more experience dad is a sparky Wich will be a benefit and fiberglass I've got a got a company I deal with through work that will have a look if I bring something in to them I get to go out on the 6.4 center console this Sunday after it gets back from the cott to rotto swim and try it out   

20 grand max and wide offshore.......hmmm, be careful.

Had a mate pick up a 20ft fibreglass cracker for 20k with a 150 so you can be lucky, but watch engine hours and age. Being stuck 30 km offshore with a busted engine and no VHF reception will not be fun!

As others have said take your time and make sure you get the hull and engine checked by somone who knows what they are doing. On a side not don't over look the trailer. No point in having a solid hull and great motor if you cant get the boat in the Water!

 Is there anything like what the Rac do with cars when they come check em before you buy them and should I be looking at a private dealer or a dealership cause I understand more risk with private but I can see more of Gettin the better end of tHe stick 

i'd be looking at both. If you find a boat at a dealership that you like make an offer everything is Negotioanable.

Have you considered waiting a little longer and saving some more money? Then go in Mid winter when the market has died and sales are down.

I've had a look at a few this week and can't find anything to match this pace maker the only thing is I don't really know what to look for in the hull and engine if any one could help me out with the key points to look for

 I had a look at this center console on the weekend that is 6.4 meters and was way to big can anyone help me with a good size that would be able to go out to rotto and behind where all the good stuff is and just being able to go deep sea in comfort

it's a shame that 20k is your limit as i have my 5.3m centre console that would suit a bloke like you no probs, great no bullshit fishing boat but i'm chasing 32k for it as it's only 18 months old, and it's better than fibreglass and ali, it's PLASTIC! treat it like shit and no problems

at the baron sportsman or penguin huntress both great boats in the water 5.6 metre boats there older hulls but built like a brick sh## house find one with a good motor and your away!

What about the one Grayzee listed up above. Perfect in ever way..

I think Caza is after a Centre Console guys.  Easily forgotten after so many posts though.  Any reason you want a CC Caza and not a runabout style set up?  I like the idea of a CC but you (or more so your deckies) can get a bit wet along the way.  There are lots of boats out their in your price range that aren't CCs.  This is where all the CC owners get stuck into me and defend their tubs so I'd better say - I'm not saying don't get a CC or that there is anything wrong with a CC, I'm just wondering what are the reasons you want one over other setups?

You were unlucky Adam scored a good looking CC.  That looked like a good one.  If you are not in a rush, I'm sure one that will suit you will pop up sooner or later.

 To be honest I'm not 100% why I want a center console I just figured it would be better for fishing being able to run all around if need be and I don't mind getting wet it's only water i know absolute F all about what I'm looking for all I really know I want to be able to go behind rotto an fish in the deep around Perth an what not and I'm goin to raise my budget to about 20 to about 27 but im Tryin to get a good deal with out reaching my absolute max  

By the sounds of it, if you can get a Chivers, Pacemaker or Baron hull converted with a decent motor you will be right around the money. Get to know some freedivers, as that pretty much describes their ideal boats. My first boat was a Chivers Pursuit (17 footer) with an early 80's Johno 70hp. It could go anywhere my current 20 footer can go, and the motor was pretty decent on fuel.

Just remember that no matter what boat you get under $20k, you will need/want to spend another $3-5k in the first 6 months, whether it be elctronics, trailer refurb, engine rebuild, the list goes on. If you don't have some spare $$$ you will very quickly find yourself with a glorified trailer sitting in the driveway.

The downside of CC is getting wet, wetter on some, but the good points include;
* Great fishability, full walk-around.
* Low wind resistance
* Less weight than a cuddy or half cab etc
* Use less fuel because of the above two points
* Better ride because the controls are further back

Definately agree with Till on the pros-n-cons with a CC. I had a 5m Wahoo CC when I was an apprentice and took it everywhere - Loved it.

For a cabin style boat that would suit your budget, have a look at the Haines Hunter V17/19's. Older boats that are built very well and ride well. Im lead to believe that Evolution boats in Melbourne has the old moulds and are reproducing them??? These would obviously have a new boat price tag though!

Good luck

Galeforce boats looks awesome if the right one pops up for sale over east i may be tempted to buy one......My dad has an old haines v19 fully stengthed etc Fantastic sea boat will handle anything thrown at it.

 ok so you have looked at a couple of boats but have you thaught about the towing capabilities of your car. 

Many cars and 4x4's have weight restrictions on them. look at your tow rating as well as draw bar weight of the boat your looking at.

22 ft centre console, had a look at it, its good ready to go. Self draining deck, looks like its got plenty of built in bouyancy. all the gear. 1998 model fiberglass. 2006 90HP yamaha 150 hrs.

http://www.marinews.com/details.php?recordid=506

Message me for more details.

 www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/trailer-boats/penguin-phantom/87825 Looks in good nick from the pics and new 4 stroke