winch
Submitted by axl100 on Sun, 2011-01-30 09:34
I have a 500kg with 3:1 ratio winch on my trailer which has broken. I was wondering if it was enough to pull my boat on and should I go a bit bigger one like a 700kg with a ratio of 5:1. does the ratios matter.
cheers
iana
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You boat looks like a 5m Cuddy
Your boat looks like a 5m Cuddy on a single axle trailer. It can't be that heavy. What broke on the winch, is it a Chinese model?. If your winch is Kaput, a two or three speed may be an advantage, fast wind up when its easy, and slower when pulling power is needed.
What are the rollers like on your trailer, proper bushings i.e. a sleeve then the steel shaft instead of a big loose bore make a big difference.
axl100
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yeah mate it is. the winch is
yeah mate it is. the winch is a jarrett and the stitching of the webbing fell apart.Im thinking of going to cable. I have to change a roller out. The weight of the boat is about 600-700kg.
chookc
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You are better off
going those rope cable versions. under 100 dollars and up to 3000kg breaking strin. much better than the steel cable and last longer than the straps
thesupervisor
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ill second the rope
ill second the rope versions
they seem to last longer and safer on the hands
just wash well after use a bit of lanonin spray will last for a long time
the straps my mates have had in the past always gave them dramas
getting the bottom line final answer from a bunch of blokes that use false names and put smiley faces at the end of paragraphs is not the best place in the world to get the information you seek.
iana
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Winch rope
Go and buy the winch rope at Trailer Parts, its a bit expensive, but its made of a fancy material giving it a great breaking strain, its spliced to a hook and lasts along time.. Problem solved. If you change a roller, make sure you buy the right type of rollers for fiberglass. Hard rollers can damage the hull when being transported.
spanishmackeral
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4th vote to the rope, ive had
4th vote to the rope, ive had both on my winch, cable came with boat and changed to rope version after the cable started fraying, 2 years and no damadge so far, only slight fading. i chose rope over the flat webbing as it looks tricky to have to get it flat before you hook it on the boat (wouldnt want to get the boat half way up and see the webbing was twisted.
axl100
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were would be the best place
were would be the best place to get the winch with the rope on it.
iana
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Why replace the winch
Jarrett winches are good, why not just get a new rope? The ropes called "Steadfast Super Winch Rope" breaking strain 1500kg. About $42 from Chandlers (Whitworths) or Trailer Parts (thats the name ofthe company).
carnarvonite
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Kevlar
Go the kevlar rope over the flat strap belting.
With the flat strap the further up the trailer the boat is the harder it is to wind because the diameter of the winch drum gets bigger with each turn therefore changing the ratio.
Swear by the blue kevlar rope, out lasts the stainless wire rope and flat strap easily.
axl100
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thank you carnarvonite
thank you carnarvonite
Toby Roe
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I agree that the strap is
I agree that the strap is s%$t but why the rope over the wire?
Toby Roe
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I agree that the strap is
I agree that the strap is s%$t but why the rope over the wire?
spanishmackeral
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if your pulling the boat in
if your pulling the boat in and the wire snaps it will coil back and if your in the way it will cut you in half
till
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In the movies - yes.
In the movies - yes.
wazzbat
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Lol!
Lol!
I fish for the future - Cause I can't bloody catch anything!
The_Wanderer
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Wire is prone to fraying and
Wire is prone to fraying and then snapping it also hurts like crazy when you have to grab the frayed wire to stop it getting caught in the cogs. Pay the extra and go the kevlar rope.
axl100
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So when I get the rope does
So when I get the rope does it fit the same way as the webbing or do i have to get som attachment.
cheers
carnarvonite
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Rope
On the winch drum you will find a hole, just feed one end of the rope through and tie a couple of good knots so it won't pull back thrpough the hole. Some have a screw down bit that clamps on to the wire/ belting, you can use this as well.
Faulkner Family
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we have had the flat strap,
we have had the flat strap, steel cable and rope. i would strongly recommend the rope. easily fitted
RUSS and SANDY. A family that fishes together stays together
NOHA
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Kevlar rope
Biggest piece of crap i have ever used.......
Digs into itself under load and jams. Frays badly arround that same area and will snap after a while.
If you leave the pressure on your winch rope while driving it works itself into the wraps and the boat then gets slack. As you brake and accelerate it gets momentum and pulls in even harder. When you need it to pull out I find it deeply imbedded and damaged. I wound it on as tight as I could but after a few uses some wraps always end up slack and the one above under load will dig in.
But I must say.. I have big heavy boats and drive on, so i only need a few feet of line at most, so my line has not had to pull up my boat from initial installation and is not as hard packed as it could be. So it does not suit my style of boating.
I have used on both my boats and the results where the same. I have had it snap after 3 weeks of use due to fraying.
It came brand new on the boat i have now and after ONE use the line arround the first wrap over the winch started to get hairy/fray. Buy the second use and a 100km drive it was dug in and couldnt be pulled out. I cut it off and replaced it with webbing..
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